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		<title>By: J. Tyler Ballance</title>
		<link>http://vbdems.org/2010/02/lemmings-to-the-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-1021</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Tyler Ballance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank-you for the very kind comment. I would love to give Mr. Wagner some healthy competition, but I do not live in that District.  I will try to find a motivated candidate to carry the ball for the Democratic team against Mr. Wagner.  Does Hank Howell live in that District?

Hampton Roads is bursting at the seams with highly qualified citizens who could carry forth the Democratic banner in every contest. There is no reason to EVER leave a race uncontested. We owe it to our citizens to enjoin the other side in a healthy, constructive debate of the issues, in EVERY election, in every district.

Bill Fleming recently showed us his great courage and dedication to Virginia by running in the, heavily gerrymandered, Eighth District. What Bill did was, fire a shot across the bow of the Republican side, and force them to publicly address many of the issues that they would have rather ignored. Most important, Bill Fleming awakened citizens of Virginia Beach to the fact that we Democrats are going to provide them with good quality candidates, and a better choice than the same old crowd of corporate-owned candidates offered by the Republican side.

I hope to meet many of the VB Democrats at the JJ dinner in Richmond on March 20th and at the training day (FREE!) on Sunday, March 21st. Visit www.vademocrats.org and sign-up to attend. We are all going to have a great time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank-you for the very kind comment. I would love to give Mr. Wagner some healthy competition, but I do not live in that District.  I will try to find a motivated candidate to carry the ball for the Democratic team against Mr. Wagner.  Does Hank Howell live in that District?</p>
<p>Hampton Roads is bursting at the seams with highly qualified citizens who could carry forth the Democratic banner in every contest. There is no reason to EVER leave a race uncontested. We owe it to our citizens to enjoin the other side in a healthy, constructive debate of the issues, in EVERY election, in every district.</p>
<p>Bill Fleming recently showed us his great courage and dedication to Virginia by running in the, heavily gerrymandered, Eighth District. What Bill did was, fire a shot across the bow of the Republican side, and force them to publicly address many of the issues that they would have rather ignored. Most important, Bill Fleming awakened citizens of Virginia Beach to the fact that we Democrats are going to provide them with good quality candidates, and a better choice than the same old crowd of corporate-owned candidates offered by the Republican side.</p>
<p>I hope to meet many of the VB Democrats at the JJ dinner in Richmond on March 20th and at the training day (FREE!) on Sunday, March 21st. Visit <a href="http://www.vademocrats.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.vademocrats.org</a> and sign-up to attend. We are all going to have a great time!</p>
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		<title>By: LittleDavid</title>
		<link>http://vbdems.org/2010/02/lemmings-to-the-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-975</link>
		<dc:creator>LittleDavid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will the Navy join the environmentalists?  While quite a few vessels are nuclear powered, most still are fueled by crude oil.  In the event of a major war, how much more difficult will it be to defend crude oil supplies that cover large expanses of open ocean compared to the short jaunt from off Virginia&#039;s coasts?  Besides, during this future war, we might find many sources of foreign oil unwilling to export to us even if the Navy is capable of defending the open ocean.

I think it is best that as large a portion of our crude oil supplies come from domestic sources as possible in the interests of national security as well our economic interests.  If someone in the Navy wants to insist that it is best that as large a percentage as possible of our crude oil needs comes from foreign sources he needs to be asked to retire early so we can get someone else in that position who has a better head on his shoulders.

J. Tyler:

You are a also a Navy Veteran?  Seriously, have you thought about SERVING in politics instead of just dabbling in and commenting on it?  We need someone to run against Wagner so we can drive him out of office.  Hopefully you live in the district.  I haven&#039;t heard of people lining up to run against Wagner.  Maybe we can start a grass roots campaign.  We&#039;ll call it the Coffee Party movement.  Real men (and most women) prefer coffee to tea.

Va Beach Democratic Committee:  Are you listening?  You need a candidate on the ballot and I nominate J. Tyler.  Perhaps you can come up with someone better, but last time Wagner ran unopposed.  J. Tyler if no one else and J. Tyler over anyone else.

But J. Tyler, you have got to agree.  Interested?  Let me warn you the pay is not much for all the demands that will be placed on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will the Navy join the environmentalists?  While quite a few vessels are nuclear powered, most still are fueled by crude oil.  In the event of a major war, how much more difficult will it be to defend crude oil supplies that cover large expanses of open ocean compared to the short jaunt from off Virginia&#8217;s coasts?  Besides, during this future war, we might find many sources of foreign oil unwilling to export to us even if the Navy is capable of defending the open ocean.</p>
<p>I think it is best that as large a portion of our crude oil supplies come from domestic sources as possible in the interests of national security as well our economic interests.  If someone in the Navy wants to insist that it is best that as large a percentage as possible of our crude oil needs comes from foreign sources he needs to be asked to retire early so we can get someone else in that position who has a better head on his shoulders.</p>
<p>J. Tyler:</p>
<p>You are a also a Navy Veteran?  Seriously, have you thought about SERVING in politics instead of just dabbling in and commenting on it?  We need someone to run against Wagner so we can drive him out of office.  Hopefully you live in the district.  I haven&#8217;t heard of people lining up to run against Wagner.  Maybe we can start a grass roots campaign.  We&#8217;ll call it the Coffee Party movement.  Real men (and most women) prefer coffee to tea.</p>
<p>Va Beach Democratic Committee:  Are you listening?  You need a candidate on the ballot and I nominate J. Tyler.  Perhaps you can come up with someone better, but last time Wagner ran unopposed.  J. Tyler if no one else and J. Tyler over anyone else.</p>
<p>But J. Tyler, you have got to agree.  Interested?  Let me warn you the pay is not much for all the demands that will be placed on you.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://vbdems.org/2010/02/lemmings-to-the-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-958</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bailey, funny thing is people have said the same thing about you for years.  I&#039;ve followed in your footsteps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bailey, funny thing is people have said the same thing about you for years.  I&#8217;ve followed in your footsteps.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Ryto</title>
		<link>http://vbdems.org/2010/02/lemmings-to-the-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-957</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Ryto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eileen,

Quoting Barrett as a defender of Oceana? Mike was one of those who wanted to allow developers (like himself) encroach up to it&#039;s gates. 

J. Tyler,

That&#039;s how I&#039;ve heard it described in a couple presentations: oil rigs impact on training in the Virginia Capes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eileen,</p>
<p>Quoting Barrett as a defender of Oceana? Mike was one of those who wanted to allow developers (like himself) encroach up to it&#8217;s gates. </p>
<p>J. Tyler,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s how I&#8217;ve heard it described in a couple presentations: oil rigs impact on training in the Virginia Capes.</p>
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		<title>By: Cargosquid</title>
		<link>http://vbdems.org/2010/02/lemmings-to-the-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-954</link>
		<dc:creator>Cargosquid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Navy was planning to move that carrier before &quot;drill baby drill&quot; was envisioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Navy was planning to move that carrier before &#8220;drill baby drill&#8221; was envisioned.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Tyler Ballance</title>
		<link>http://vbdems.org/2010/02/lemmings-to-the-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-953</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Tyler Ballance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I operated our Navy&#039;s ships in the Arabian Gulf and the Gulf of Mexico. The oil rigs do not impede our operations, but their presence does take away some of the options that we typically would have for live firing exercises. Depending on where the rigs are placed in the Virginia Capes operating area, we might have to re-draw some of our operating areas, but it really is not much of an issue.

As for the Carrier moving to Mayport/Jacksonville: We should be describing this as a proposed move BACK to Mayport, since the Navy used to have carriers stationed there. Citizens of Norfolk must recall the lessons of Pearl Harbor. It is foolish to have all of our East Coast aircraft carriers in one, easily targeted port. We should spread the carriers out; at least to two ports per coast. The original consolidation plan was intended to save money, but most veterans opposed that idea, since it was a strategic error to have all of our &quot;eggs&quot; placed in one basket (Norfolk for the Atlantic Fleet and San Diego for the Pacific Fleet). Thankfully, the consolidation plan was stopped and our Navy is seeking to spread our Naval assets out a bit more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I operated our Navy&#8217;s ships in the Arabian Gulf and the Gulf of Mexico. The oil rigs do not impede our operations, but their presence does take away some of the options that we typically would have for live firing exercises. Depending on where the rigs are placed in the Virginia Capes operating area, we might have to re-draw some of our operating areas, but it really is not much of an issue.</p>
<p>As for the Carrier moving to Mayport/Jacksonville: We should be describing this as a proposed move BACK to Mayport, since the Navy used to have carriers stationed there. Citizens of Norfolk must recall the lessons of Pearl Harbor. It is foolish to have all of our East Coast aircraft carriers in one, easily targeted port. We should spread the carriers out; at least to two ports per coast. The original consolidation plan was intended to save money, but most veterans opposed that idea, since it was a strategic error to have all of our &#8220;eggs&#8221; placed in one basket (Norfolk for the Atlantic Fleet and San Diego for the Pacific Fleet). Thankfully, the consolidation plan was stopped and our Navy is seeking to spread our Naval assets out a bit more.</p>
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		<title>By: William Bailey</title>
		<link>http://vbdems.org/2010/02/lemmings-to-the-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-952</link>
		<dc:creator>William Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kirwin: LOL Sometimes they would get to the ER quicker if they crawled than waiting for the ambulance to arrive...  BTW: I wouldn&#039;t bill them anything close to what the ER&#039;s and doctor are going to charge them.  They have costs to provide the ER service and why should the taxpayers in VB pay for free rides when nothing about the ride is &quot;free.&quot;   You get the ER to drop the fees and I&#039;ll agree with you.

And on topic, Eileen is not the US Navy or DOD.  BTW they have both objected to the &quot;drill baby drill&quot; approach off the coast of Virginia.  I support the US Navy and not some dumb &quot;drill baby&quot; theme that isn&#039;t going to reduce our oil dependence, fuel costs or improve our job outlook.  

And I find I have a sense of humor.  I no longer find your spew funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kirwin: LOL Sometimes they would get to the ER quicker if they crawled than waiting for the ambulance to arrive&#8230;  BTW: I wouldn&#8217;t bill them anything close to what the ER&#8217;s and doctor are going to charge them.  They have costs to provide the ER service and why should the taxpayers in VB pay for free rides when nothing about the ride is &#8220;free.&#8221;   You get the ER to drop the fees and I&#8217;ll agree with you.</p>
<p>And on topic, Eileen is not the US Navy or DOD.  BTW they have both objected to the &#8220;drill baby drill&#8221; approach off the coast of Virginia.  I support the US Navy and not some dumb &#8220;drill baby&#8221; theme that isn&#8217;t going to reduce our oil dependence, fuel costs or improve our job outlook.  </p>
<p>And I find I have a sense of humor.  I no longer find your spew funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://vbdems.org/2010/02/lemmings-to-the-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-951</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bailey, Bailey, Bailey.  If you had your way, you&#039;d be charging sick and injured people for calling an ambulance.  Maybe you&#039;d rather they crawled to ER.

Eileen&#039;s never been anywhere near an oil rig, and she&#039;s the expert telling us what it would be like?

David..thank you for having a sense of humor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bailey, Bailey, Bailey.  If you had your way, you&#8217;d be charging sick and injured people for calling an ambulance.  Maybe you&#8217;d rather they crawled to ER.</p>
<p>Eileen&#8217;s never been anywhere near an oil rig, and she&#8217;s the expert telling us what it would be like?</p>
<p>David..thank you for having a sense of humor.</p>
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		<title>By: David Campbell</title>
		<link>http://vbdems.org/2010/02/lemmings-to-the-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-949</link>
		<dc:creator>David Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Brian, nice of you to visit.  You are always good for a laugh.  The Army has military operations in Iraq, but I&#039;m pretty sure they would oppose the installation of IEDs in the streets of Virginia Beach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Brian, nice of you to visit.  You are always good for a laugh.  The Army has military operations in Iraq, but I&#8217;m pretty sure they would oppose the installation of IEDs in the streets of Virginia Beach.</p>
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		<title>By: William Bailey</title>
		<link>http://vbdems.org/2010/02/lemmings-to-the-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-948</link>
		<dc:creator>William Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kirwin: Since you&#039;ve never been in the Navy or Persian Gulf, what do you know about the issue except what you&#039;ve been told?  Nothing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirwin: Since you&#8217;ve never been in the Navy or Persian Gulf, what do you know about the issue except what you&#8217;ve been told?  Nothing&#8230;</p>
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